Just to make things clear.

Elochai · 2014-06-28 18:28:20

I became open about my self. Because I saw sick of trying to defend my own innocence, sick of trying to sound like a good person. Sick of keeping all this stuff bottled up. Either way, open or not, acted upon or not. I was going to be a hated and ladled sick.

So why not just be open and act upon it? Full hate was already there, even when living in anonymity. Now, I don't need to defend my own innocence any-more, so what I do stuff, I admit and I'll plead the 5th every freaking time.

So, the reason why I'm stuck with being so open, and a horrible young adult is pretty much everyone's fault.

Different55 · 2014-06-28 18:39:21

I admit and I'll plead the 5th every freaking time.

1. You're in the UK.
2. You've never been silent about this since you became "open".

and a horrible young adult is pretty much everyone's fault.

Am I reading this wrong or are you blaming everyone else for your own actions? We had no hand in this. We've told you to stop being open. I've told you to stop messing with children for your own good as well as the good of the children. I'm sure everyone in your life who knew about it has tried to put an end to it one way or another, whether that's trying to reason with you or punching you in the face or sending death threats, or trying to arrest you, we've all tried to stop this.
You just ignore us and keep going.
Don't blame us if you won't listen to the world. We tried. We're still trying.

Elochai · 2014-06-28 18:48:48

Well I didn't mean like that.. I just always plead guilty, but say as little as possible.

No!. I mean in the first place. Before I was even open. There's nothing good about our attraction. There's nothing there to help us, we're bad people the moment we are born. Nothing we do will makes us a good person, because our attraction makes us a bad people straight away..

That's my point, if I wasn't sucked in the stigma in the first place. and I started off as a good person, like a freaking equal. (Human rights, where are you?) Then maybe, I would have found a reason not to act on it, and carry on being quiet about it, since I have the motivation of "wait, I'm a good person, people know that we are good people if we don't act on it" but no. It's "they're all sick, we don't give a crap about helping them, they should die and be hated so much, before they act on it". that's the attitude I got. That's what made me not give a crap. WHAT HAVE I GOT TO LOOSE? I ALREADY LOST MOST OF IT FOR HAVING MY ATTRACTION THAT I DIDN'T CHOOSE IN THE FIRST PLACE. But of course, be not choosing my attraction is my fault.

And totally being forced into the stigma is my fault too. I totally wanted people to hate me for my attraction despite I was a young boy fighting not to do anything. Can't you see that I had nothing to loose, I was already suffering by society and the hate that's in the air, the help that isn't there... If I'm already hated to the equivalent for something I haven't done, I may as well do it.

That's my point.

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Different55 · 2014-06-28 19:34:12

Elochai wrote:

Well I didn't mean like that.. I just always plead guilty, but say as little as possible.

Okay.

No!. I mean in the first place. Before I was even open. There's nothing good about our attraction. There's nothing there to help us

What happened to those support groups you told me about?

we're bad people the moment we are born. Nothing we do will makes us a good person, because our attraction makes us a bad people straight away.

Not true.

That's my point, if I wasn't sucked in the stigma in the first place. and I started off as a good person, like a freaking equal. (Human rights, where are you?) Then maybe, I would have found a reason not to act on it, and carry on being quiet about it, since I have the motivation of "wait, I'm a good person, people know that we are good people if we don't act on it" but no. It's "they're all sick, we don't give a crap about helping them, they should die and be hated so much, before they act on it". that's the attitude I got. That's what made me not give a crap. WHAT HAVE I GOT TO LOOSE? I ALREADY LOST MOST OF IT FOR HAVING MY ATTRACTION THAT I DIDN'T CHOOSE IN THE FIRST PLACE. But of course, be not choosing my attraction is my fault.

Most of it's not true. In any case:
If you want to start over. Uproot yourself and go somewhere where nobody knows you. You wouldn't have to worry about being hated.

And totally being forced into the stigma is my fault too. I totally wanted people to hate me for my attraction despite I was a young boy fighting not to do anything. Can't you see that I had nothing to loose, I was already suffering by society and the hate that's in the air, the help that isn't there... If I'm already hated to the equivalent for something I haven't done, I may as well do it.

You weren't hated from the moment you were born. You started being hated when you started broadcasting pedophilia. A classic example is back on the EE forums. You were one of the most popular members, no problems at all, but then you started broadcasting, a lot of people started disliking and hating you, but a few still thought of you as a nice person, and then it just kept getting worse and you were eventually banned.

A lot of people will still forgive you, but sometimes everything you do just reads like you're screaming out "HATE ME" and a lot of people are taking up your call. Like I've said, I've told you how to stop being hated. I gave you instructions. You ignored them. It's easy to not be hated, but you don't seem to WANT to not be hated.

N1KF · 2014-06-28 20:08:39

Hmm.

I am similar.

I have once been hated online.

It took me about a year to finally realize my mistakes, and I did it.

You are not the same.

You know what you are doing.

You think it is mostly innocent.

You could easily stop it if you wanted to.

I have had many similar bad experiences (though, not involving young boys besides myself).

However, I learnt to improve.

You, posting so much about boys is a legitimate reason for people to get annoyed.

Maybe even a legitimate reason to get banned.

Be glad it was not worse.

You are choosing to be so open with your fetishes that it can be disturbing to some.

Just learn to think twice before you say what you say.

Trust me, it will turn out better that way.

Elochai · 2014-06-29 03:23:54

You guys don't get it do you. Pedophiles. People like me. are generally hated. Despite if we have acted on or not. They don't even have to know me to hate me. You here it on the news, about how sick the attraction is and people with it our sick even if they haven't acted on it. And all pedophiles should be killed to prevent rape.

Maybe where you live is a little diff erent, but you can go into town and sometimes hear people talking about it. Before I told anyone my mom was saying how horrible they are just in general. I was all "what if they just like children though" and then she was "still horrible sick people"

The support groups were horrible.

My point is if you mention "pedophile" to anyone they will lash out... That's what's driving me insane. To every one in soiciety I was a bad person even with out acting on it. Even without being open about it. The hate is there, people are hating you, insulting you on a daily basis, and they don't even know it. That is my point.

I did not mean you guys as in you guys. I just meant you guys and in being people.

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Different55 · 2014-06-29 08:45:38

Any and all generalizations (including this one) are inaccurate. You can't take them personally.

Nobody would hate you if you weren't so open. People are afraid of pedophilia. People hate things that would harm their children. They're just trying to protect the children.

If you moved somewhere where nobody knew, and started acting normal again, you wouldn't be hated, and eventually your problems with the law would go away. You might still hear things, but those aren't directed at you. Those things are directed at pedophiles, and why should you care what they say? Pedophilia may be a bad thing but that doesn't mean those who have the urge forced on them are bad people. Anyone who doesn't realize that isn't worth your time and you should stop worrying about what they have to say about pedophilia.

Elochai · 2014-06-29 09:50:15

No, if I move I will still be a pedophile, thus I will still be hated.

It's not a generalization that people hate pedophiles, of course it's personal, since I am a pedophile, people who hate them hate me

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Different55 · 2014-06-29 11:33:24

It's not personal. It wouldn't be personal unless they know you're a pedo and they say it purposefully while you're around.

They hate pedophiles. They don't hate you until they know you're a pedophile. They don't know that until you start being open.

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