The A E I O U Vowel Song

N1KF · 2014-05-03 23:03:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuNhrogY-Mo

Last edited by N1KF (2014-05-03 23:04:04)

Ratburntro44 · 2014-05-03 23:11:47

needs more y

Starvr344 · 2014-05-04 10:30:37

Now do the consonants.

Different55 · 2014-05-04 10:37:12

What about numbers? Don't leave them out.

Starvr344 · 2014-05-04 12:21:27

What happens when to of them go walking?

Ratburntro44 · 2014-05-04 13:19:08

Different55 wrote:

What about numbers? Don't leave them out.

Except 4. 4 sucks. You can leave 4 out.

Different55 · 2014-05-04 14:34:29

As long as 21 is in there, I'm good.

Creature · 2014-05-05 10:18:38

The 1-2-3-4-5 Numbers Song

N1KF · 2014-05-06 19:05:23

Starvr344 wrote:

What happens when to of them go walking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o84ndBQU6vQ

colon · 2014-08-19 08:53:53

that's terrifying

the voices man

Fradeshan · 2014-08-19 11:27:16

rip y and w
they were taken by the voices

Coolio · 2014-08-19 14:23:01

Fradeshan wrote:

rip y and w

w?

N1KF · 2014-08-19 16:44:16

every letter is a vowel

Bimps1002 · 2014-08-19 16:49:43

if every letter is a vowel are they really vowels

N1KF · 2014-08-19 17:04:56

whoa

deep

Fradeshan · 2014-08-19 17:08:00

Coolio wrote:

Fradeshan wrote:
rip y and w
w?

snow

Coolio · 2014-08-19 17:08:45

Fradeshan wrote:

Coolio wrote:
Fradeshan wrote:
rip y and w
w?
snow

I don't think you understand how vowels work.

Fradeshan · 2014-08-19 17:14:42

do you
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel
check written vowels

Coolio · 2014-08-19 17:24:07

In the first part of the article:

There is a conflict between the phonetic definition of "vowel" (a sound produced with no constriction in the vocal tract) and the phonological definition (a sound that forms the peak of a syllable).[1] The approximants [j] and [w] illustrate this conflict: both are produced without much of a constriction in the vocal tract (so phonetically they seem to be vowel-like), but they occur on the edge of syllables, such as at the beginning of the English words "yet" and "wet" (which suggests that phonologically they are consonants). The American linguist Kenneth Pike (1943) suggested the terms "vocoid" for a phonetic vowel and "vowel" for a phonological vowel,[2] so using this terminology, [j] and [w] are classified as vocoids but not vowels.

Fradeshan · 2014-08-19 17:30:31

[] is referring to the sound
A E I O U Y W were referred to later as letters
y sometimes, w sometimes
both also as approximants

Last edited by Fradeshan (2014-08-19 17:30:50)

Coolio · 2014-08-19 17:41:20

Fradeshan wrote:

[] is referring to the sound

Is that not what you meant by snow?

A E I O U Y W were referred to later as letters
y sometimes, w sometimes
both also as approximants

I think I'm brainfarting on what you're saying here.

Fradeshan · 2014-08-19 17:54:22

y/w sometimes as vowels and/or approximants

In phonetics, a vowel is a sound in spoken language, such as an English ah! [ɑː] or oh! [oʊ], pronounced with an open vocal tract so that there is no build-up of air pressure at any point above the glottis. This contrasts with consonants, such as English sh! [ʃː], there is a constriction or closure at some point along the vocal tract.

do the things there in [] look like letters
phonetic symbols

it's silent in snow isn't it
also

somewhere else wrote:

Although approximants are classified as consonants, there is no real distinction with vowels (at least for non-lateral approximants between the palatal and pharyngeal regions): any vowel that is sufficiently close or back can be made into an approximant. The letter ‘y’ in the English words “year”, “you” or “yet” is a palatal approximant (on the other hand, in the word “yeast” it comes closer to a voiced fricative); similarly, the letter ‘w’ in “worm” or “wet” is a labio-velar approximant

Coolio · 2014-08-19 18:39:46

I'm competely brainfarting now from linguistic jargon overload or whatever, so I'll concede your point about spoken language and move on to the argument that English requires at least one vowel per syllable, and since w cannot be that vowel, only affecting the sound of the actual vowel, it remains a consonant, albeit more vowel-like than other consonants.

Fradeshan · 2014-08-19 18:50:49

i'd think so at least there
but it represents its own sound with another vowel
you also said at least
again 2+ letters can be a vowel sound
so it's a vowel sometimes and not in others

flaw
blew (blue similarly)
bow (just silent but that's a vowel thing)
fly
dye
lynx

non-examples:
water
yes

Last edited by Fradeshan (2014-08-19 18:52:01)

Coolio · 2014-08-19 20:02:30

A syllable can have 2+ vowels in the sense that together they make a new sound, but something like 'au' doesn't constitute a vowel to me. It's the same thing with something like 'sh': it's made of two consonants, but the new sound that gets made isn't a consonant in and of itself, just a 'blend' of the two.
A parallel circumstance for me is the letter r. Just because 'ar' 'er' 'or' 'ir' 'ur' make new noises doesn't really make r its own vowel.
The 'sometimes' argument goes for y, but not so much for w because you'd never see w as the lone vowel, while "fly" is definitive proof of y's vowelness.

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